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Not sure. On the surface it seems like a good idea, but we are going to teach our kids to not accept anything (temp. tattoo, sticker, or micro-chip like) on their right hand/arm or forehead, etc. Including smiley stickers at wal-mart. When the mark of the beast comes, I think it will be just that easy(figuratively) for them to say yes/no, so we are going to start training them to say no early. So, I'm not sure I would want to send them mixed messages.

Am I paranoid? You bet. ;) Indeed, the next step is to microchip them, which is an idea already being passed around in certain circles. This is just part of the process to desensitize us to the idea of a mark...

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/09/03/uk.implant/index.html

That is an awesome idea. It would work great for elderly adults that tend to wander away from home as well! I wonder why I can't ever think of anything like that. [whatwacko] Seems so simple.

Not sure. On the surface it seems like a good idea, but we are going to teach our kids to not accept anything (temp. tattoo, sticker, or micro-chip like) on their right hand/arm or forehead, etc. Including smiley stickers at wal-mart. When the mark of the beast comes, I think it will be just that easy(figuratively) for them to say yes/no, so we are going to start training them to say no early. So, I'm not sure I would want to send them mixed messages.

Am I paranoid? You bet. ;) Indeed, the next step is to microchip them, which is an idea already being passed around in certain circles. This is just part of the process to desensitize us to the idea of a mark...

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/09/03/uk.implant/index.html

I can kind of see where you are coming from however, don't you think we should teach our kids to discern the difference between satan and God rather than to robotically say no to things?

can kind of see where you are coming from however, don't you think we should teach our kids to discern the difference between satan and God rather than to robotically say no to things?

Absolutely.

But, I also believe all these tattoos/microchips/etc on the market today, are only in place to gradually brainwash people into accepting the mark. Kids are impressionable.

Desensitization is a slippery slope. It is one of the strongest techniques that satan has used to bring in all kinds of filth. Look at all that hollywood has brought in, by GRADUALLY desensitizing the public to things that were shocking (way back in the day), which today seem tame. That is how the homosexual agenda has gotten its foothold, and how the mark of the beast will also. We will be gradually introduced to the idea until nobody cares anymore. Since it is "their" agenda to brainwash my child to accept the mark, rest assured I will be "brainwashing" them with the bible and also the idea that NOBODY has a right or need to place ANYTHING on your hand/arm/forehead. I do not want them to be desensitized to the idea. I do not think that is an extreme measure to take given the times we live in.

Of course I also plan on teaching them discernment.

Jack Van Impe has already said it's okay to take microchips (saw on his GLOBAL ID: 666 video) since it can't be the mark of the beast since it's before the rapture still (although he claims we are VERY close to the rapture, so go ahead and get one if you want. I think he's crazy AND now I know why Jesus said this:

Luke 21: 8 And He said: “Take heed that you not be deceived. For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am He,’ and, ‘The time has drawn near.’ Therefore do not go after them.

1. I believe in a post-trib rapture, so I don't think it's "safe" to take anything because we'll be "raptured" before anything bad happens. I believe this is exactly the type of teaching Jesus was warning us about.
2. I believe in "better safe than sorry."

So, I understand how you can think that's extreme. I realize I probably sound crazy. I want to guard against rationalizing away evil things, however. The groundwork is being laid for people to come up with all kinds of excuses. God is not going to accept mankind's lame excuses for things when we've been warned.

I love this idea.....I don't really see where this comes into play with the mark of the beast....it is a safety precaution for our children. I agree with the before post we need to teach them the difference between satan and God and not to say no to everything.....not everything is bad....there are still some good things in this world..

We do tats that are fun and in good taste. My children also get stickers at Walmart.....on their shirt, hands or whereever....it is a sticker of a smiley face.....I am sorry if I come across as harsh but these safety tats or smiley face stickers can not compare to the mark of the beast...

I am sorry if I come across as harsh but these safety tats or smiley face stickers can not compare to the mark of the beast.

I'm not saying a smiley face sticker IS the mark of the beast... just to clarify. I am saying young children understand SIMPLE rules. I.E. it's a lot easier to teach a 4 year old to not accept anything on their forehead/hand, than to try to teach them the difference between the mark of the beast and everything else (until of course they are old enough to understand). Like I said... better safe than sorry.

AND our society IS being desensitized.... so we can all be microchipped in the future.

LaDonna, you have said in the past you think the MOB will be a tattoo and not a microchip. Do you still think that?

I'm really not sure about putting that on my kids...
Not that I think there's something wrong with it...I just don't know that it's what I'd do..

AND our society IS being desensitized.... so we can all be microchipped in the future.

I have to agree with this. We do need to be so very cautious, vigilant, and forever discerning, being led by the Holy Spirit. [crossandheart]

I don't think there's a thing wrong with these tats (in and of themselves). Cheese probably doesn't, either. But, I do think it's important to be so, so very careful and aware of what's happening. I remember being very leery and uncomfortable with debit cards, as it was a gigantic step toward a cashless society. I use my debit card for almost everything, btw. ;-) I think it's a good thing to keep reminding ourselves and each other what's to come, so none of us is lulled into a false sense of security (in this world). Thanks, Cheese, for the heads up! [heart]

The tats remind me of the little I.D. bracelets all my kids wore until they grew out of them. I don't know if I like the tat idea. I'm too old school, I guess, and hope my kids won't ever become tattooed. My age is showing. heehee! :-P

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I've never seen these before. However, what we have done with our boys a couple of times when we've gone to the Easter Show (used to be the Royal Agricultural Show, on at Easter time each year, animals, rides, stalls, games,etc) where there are thousands of people and a chance they may get lost, is for either dh or I to write our mobile number on their arm, so that if they do get lost, they can ask a police officer or stall holder etc. to call us. This is simply because at the ages of 7 and 9, I don't think they'd be able to remember a 10-digit mobile number if they were upset and stressed about being lost.

It is, of course, washed off when we get home *wink*, and I don't think that they will confuse me writing a phone no. on their arm in pen with anything else.

I don't recall ever discussing the MOB on this forum......especially saying that it was going to be a tattoo.....I may be mistaken but I do not recall saying this at all.

I agree with Cheeseburger ... I think at the beginning seems like a great idea... but that's the way the mark of the beast will seem like... the best idea! ... the best solution! ... Of course this is an innocent tat... the intentions behind it are great and the service it can provide might be awesome... BUT.... I agree we need to send a clear message to our children... that... just like this tat seems so innocent, harmless and even "necessary" ... it will be better to say "No" because things will come that might look the same way and they won't be harmless at all!

When the mark of the beast comes.... it won't be announced as the "mark of the beast"... if it was... probably nobody would get it ... It will come as the EXACT thing you need.... everybody needs...

I insist... I agree with those who think it's a great idea!... IT is... the mark of the beast will be a great idea too! I think the tat is wonderful... but we can use it as a GREAT example for our kids that even those things that seem OK, Right and perfectly safe... unfortunately might not be it.

What an interesting topic... when I first saw the link that PianoMama posted... I thought "Wow... I want one" (can you imagine the marketing that will be involved in the mark of the beast thing?") but I think Cheeseburger made a great point...

I also agree with MommyJessy... we should teach our kids to be able to distinguish what is right from wrong, What's from God and what's from the devil... Unfortunately there are things that we will have to say... "Even if it seems right... if it's about marking you ... you should say NO".

I will bring the topic to DH and see what his opinion is...

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hmmm interesting topic, I had seen some temp. tatoos recently on a website I was looking at as our ds who has autism has a tendacy to wander off and he doesn't have the verbal skills to tell an adult who he is or who his parents are!
I never thought about it in regards to the mark of the beast, just a practical way of taking care of our little ones. Although I would go for an id bracelet before the temp. tatoo. I feel the bracelet is less invasive!

Confused here why its the mark of the beast as well, I have to review my scripture I think. Maybe I think to innocently and must be made more aware of things going on. But I feel I am pretty over protective as it is and see this as safe. I won't use it for my children, but for many children and parents its another helpful safe tool I think.

In today's busy and scary society I believe our first role as parents should be protecting our children. So many things can happen in the blink of an eye. Being in the public as we are with our jobs, seeing so many parents with their children this type of "parenting" doesn't send of any warning signs in my book. I mean you should see some parents and their children, what they are wearing, what the children act like, who they are with, how they talk..... With this type of product its for safety, I see no harm and disecting this product seems a bit odd to me. Its seems innocent to me.

I agree we must parent with the Holy Spirit, use the judgement, brains and instincts God gave us to keep the wonderful blessing He bestowed upon us safe. hmmm

Not trying to be high and mighty here just trying to figure out why this thread went the way it did a bit?

I don't recall ever discussing the MOB on this forum......especially saying that it was going to be a tattoo.....I may be mistaken but I do not recall saying this at all.

It was months ago, before the forum switch... it was in a current events topic I think. If you can't remember that's understandable it was a long time ago... or maybe it was someone else and you posted in that topic but it wasn't your post... i could be wrong. i went to look but of course topics that far back have been pruned - oh well. no big deal

I insist... I agree with those who think it's a great idea!... IT is... the mark of the beast will be a great idea too! I think the tat is wonderful... but we can use it as a GREAT example for our kids that even those things that seem OK, Right and perfectly safe... unfortunately might not be it.

This here is a great example of the point I'm making. Kids need to learn to discern. We as Christians, if we are truly walking in spirit as we are supposed to, would discern the mark when/if it was offered to us. We need to pass this ability on to our kids i.e, teach them to seek, pray, listen and act upon what the Lord tells us. I don't think not letting them put a sticker, tattoo or other mark on them does them any good, maybe it is a good teaching opportunity if they are ready but to just not let them in hopes of teaching them to refuse ANYTHING robotically just doesn't make sense.

I agree with CB here. I know it seems good, novel, logical and fun, but I think this can also be paving the way for the MOB under the guise of safety. Had this been available when our kids were little, we wouldn't have taken advantage of it. Just my thoughts...

This here is a great example of the point I'm making. Kids need to learn to discern. We as Christians, if we are truly walking in spirit as we are supposed to, would discern the mark when/if it was offered to us. We need to pass this ability on to our kids i.e, teach them to seek, pray, listen and act upon what the Lord tells us. I don't think not letting them put a sticker, tattoo or other mark on them does them any good, maybe it is a good teaching opportunity if they are ready but to just not let them in hopes of teaching them to refuse ANYTHING robotically just doesn't make sense.

I absolutely agree with you! - about teaching them to seek, pray, listen and act upon what the Lord tells us.... and not teaching them to refuse everything robotically ... I just particularly think (in my personal case) that MY kids - when I have them - (the way I will raise them) I don't want them to accept any mark on their bodies... temporarily or not... tat or chip... I think it might desensitize us ... make it seem normal... like cheeseburger said....

I will explain to them that this type of "Temporary" tats are perfectly "innocent" ... of course... I don't think they are related to the Mark of the Beast at all (but even without the intention it might be preparing the land for it... as many other things)... So... as long as I am in charge of them... I will teach them to try to keep their bodies from being marked... After that, when it's their choice... the decision will be theirs... and I hope they value their bodies as the temple of the Spirit so much that I will have taught them to reject not only the mark of the beast but piercings, tats, and stuff like that....

I think we can find other solutions instead of a tat.... like an ID band and stuff like that as others suggested...


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Thanks MommyJessy... I think you have a great and wonderful point! :-D

I agree with CB here. I know it seems good, novel, logical and fun, but I think this can also be paving the way for the MOB under the guise of safety.

Madre can I ask politely "how and why" you think that?

I think we can find other solutions instead of a tat.... like an ID band and stuff like that as others suggested...



This is always currently offered at many events/state fairs we work here on the east coast. An id like tag is on the childs wrist upon entrance, parent gets the other. But how is that any different than a simple temp tatoo?

This is always currently offered at many events/state fairs we work here on the east coast. An id like tag is on the childs wrist upon entrance, parent gets the other. But how is that any different than a simple temp tatoo?

Is not directly on their bodies...

A band is like a bracelet, collar or even clothing... :D

But it's not on your skin... directly on or in your body...

I think that's the difference.

I'm out of this covo from here on, it's a touchy subject to me and I don't want to cause a rift.

Okay but its temporary, not permanent, I'm still not getting all of this. Maybe I should just agree to disagree here.

Yes... I think we can all agree to disagree

Those of us who for some reason (maybe God guiding us this way for a particular way our kids are or will be) think that it's best not to let our kids have it... then ... let's not...

Those of us who think that is innocent (which I agree a temp tat is... I just already explained what I think it can lead to) and think it's best to let our kids have it... then... let's do it...

he he...

At the end... it's God leading us all... who knows... maybe at a fair or event God will give me peace and tell me to do it... and why not... maybe God will tell some of those who think it's fine to not do it when the circumstance presents itself.

So...

I think this is just a matter of opinion... None of us is Biblically correct or incorrect in this particular topic (about temp safety tats)

Love u all!

Paloma.

Yep, agreed. That is what is so wonderful about this site! We all know where the other comes from, we mean well, and we know the other is speaking from their heart, no ill intention to another. No judging necessary -ever- just interesting to see others points of view.

Love ya all too!

Madre can I ask politely "how and why" you think that?

Sure, Renee (and you don't have to be all that polite :-D ).

First of all, this is what I would do in a public scenario. I would keep a close eye on the kids with identifying items, like a red hat, shirt or bow. We also never let our kids wear their names on their shirts in public places. It's too easy for someone to call their name and they, unsuspectingly, go to them. I think info inside a hat, on the inside of a shirt or inside a shoe is better.

I don't claim to be a biblical scholar, but I just think that while this is not the MOB, it's easy to just relax our vigilance and go to sleep in certain areas. It's a fight to stay awake in this age, I think. I truly don't know what the mark is, but whatever it is, it will be a way to keep track of people. I think we can assume that your personal info (as requested) will be forever on Safetytat's database.

This is just my opinion, Renee.

Glad to read your opinion Madre, you're always so sweet. Points all well taken by everyone. And yes I must be polite, polite as possible in writing, at least I try to be.

Oh I agree about the name thing. I never let my kids where or display anything with their name on it in public.

Glad to read your opinion Madre, you're always so sweet. Points all well taken by everyone. And yes I must be polite, polite as possible in writing, at least I try to be.

I agree, Renee; I was just joshin' ya. You are always gracious! :-D

wow - i'm really sorry to have started such a controversial topic. i truly didn't mean it to be so. i would like to ask the mods to close this thread.

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