This mom, had had a total of 2 prior vaginal deliveries (3 kids and middle child was an emergency section) and yet the hospital told her that they'd changed their policy and that her 4th child had to be a c-section. Despite the fact that she had had a prior VBAC at their facility! She and her husband talked to administrators at the hospital, but they wouldn't budge and told her that if she showed up in labor, they would give her a court ordered c-section!

She had to move over 300 miles away from her home in Page, Arizona to be near a hospital in Pheonix that would allow VBACS! The first article talks about this. The second article is an update saying that she did have her 4th baby in Pheonix and it was an extremely easy birth, 4-5 hours of labor and 1 push.

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-15/health/hospitals.ban.vbacs_1_c-section-uterine-rupture-vaginal-birth?_s=PM:HEALTH

http://articles.cnn.com/2009-12-17/health/birth.plan.tips_1_vaginal-delivery-caesareans-vaginal-births?_s=PM:HEALTH

That's odd, did they change their policy because they were unable to get insurance? our local hospital doesn't allow any births because they can't get insurance for it - all women in labor get sent by ambulance to the city.

I suspect under Obamacare we will see more policy changes like this as insurance companies adjust to the new legislation -was was going to make it easier for people to get health care insurance will likely restrict our health care choices as hospitals and clinics try to manage insurance costs.

Nicole, that seems to be the case over here, to a large extent, with medical treatments. Over here its like a post code lottery. Where you live makes all the difference as to how and what sort of treatment you recieve. Now, we can get pretty much any treatement the nhs allows, there have been cases where people have gone to foreign countries to recieve a medication/treatment that isnt approved by the nhs. In other words they cant afford to pay for it. There's cancer drugs, alziemers drugs and such that nhs dont approve.

Then there's the cases like mine. In manchester I could not get the right treatment simply bc that particular nhs trust (think of it as a 'district') is overburdened. When my son was born there seemed to be a shortage of nurses and midwives. Thats the assumption I made based on the way I was 'treated'. The nurses really seemed too busy and were slightly impatient with me, running around a lot, no time to sit and chat like they did when I gave birth to my daughters in the US 18 months previously. That was all up north. Now Im living in the south and the treatment seems much better. I feel listened to and the medical staff doesnt seem SO overburdened.

Thats what national health service is like in the UK. Its unavoidable that there will be problems and its easy to see all the bad things. The good thing about having a completely free to be seen by a dr and get some kind of treatment is that ALL medical service is available to anyone. Anyone can go to a dr's office, be registered and be seen and treated and the treatment on the whole is good. People are treated for terminal illnesses, poor, rich, anybody. If you are poor you dont even have to pay ANY of your medical bills, you just dont get medical bills.

So, there's good and bad with national health services.

That was a bit OT, but since it came up...

That's odd, did they change their policy because they were unable to get insurance? our local hospital doesn't allow any births because they can't get insurance for it - all women in labor get sent by ambulance to the city.

I suspect under Obamacare we will see more policy changes like this as insurance companies adjust to the new legislation -was was going to make it easier for people to get health care insurance will likely restrict our health care choices as hospitals and clinics try to manage insurance costs.

They claimed that it was because they didn't have enough staffing to meet ACOG recommendations. From what I was reading in the article, though, someone thought that maybe their interpretations of ACOG recommendations was a little over the top....

their basically covering their butt, so if something goes wrong in the vbac you could sue them since they arent really qualified. but that would really stink to up and move your whole family, why didnt she just go out of town close to time to give birth, I think that would be cheaper then moving your entire family kwim?

their basically covering their butt, so if something goes wrong in the vbac you could sue them since they arent really qualified. but that would really stink to up and move your whole family, why didnt she just go out of town close to time to give birth, I think that would be cheaper then moving your entire family kwim?

She actually did move only herself. Her sons and husband stayed at home. Which meant that her husband most likely missed the birth, since they were 5 hours away and her labor was 4-5 hours.