VBa2C

[Mab]

Hi,
I am feeling a bit more down today. Sorry if I am "off loading" here...

I so badly want to try for normal VBirth.

The situation is as follows:

I had an "emergancy" C with my first after being induced (my fault - i did not know better) and i did not dialate AT ALL. (in 2000)

After that, i struggled to find a doc that would favour vbac with my 2nd , but the night before i was to be induced (due to some complications) i contracted a deadly virus, and ag... let's just leave the rest behind, except ... another this time "Real" Emercancy C-section.

I am now sitting at 34 weeks pg. and my doctor keeps saying that trying a vbac after 2 scars is just far to risky. he wants to elCs. But I don't want to. Right now, we arguing on the dates, cause i want it as late as possible... and he does not want me to go into labour..

My husband asked him today what would he do if i go into labour... He said he will have to stop it cause the contractions can cause the rupture.

But i think after today's meeting (when my hormones were acting up badly) he understood i am NOT at all keen on the Cs.

Any advice.

And no... I think around here... ALL doctors like Cs. i struggled to find one that was prepared to do a Cs. (but i think since last time, when i almost did not make it, my child did not - due to the virus - everyone around me is too nervous to try anything other than the Cs. I on the other hand, was rushed out of theater to ICU - near death - am not looking forward to going under the blade again! ) :cry:

I guess because my life was in such danger last time, and we lost a child... even though it did not have to do with the birth, but a virus i contracted in hospital... i don't feel i can argue tooo much. i mean, do i want to sit with the guilt of a life being lost just because i do not want to be cut up again?

[logosnimby]

I know how you feel. I was unable to have vaginal births as well. Our first was 3-4 weeks late and when my water broke, they started me on pit. I know now that i should have just labored at home instead of going in :roll: I never dialated more than 4-5cm.

my second was going to be a vbac, but he was 3 weeks late as well and the drs wouldnt let me go any longer :roll:

with the third, i just oped to csec. i had my children so close in age, there was too much risk to try it.

I am sad that i was never able to have a natural birth, but i am so glad i had healthy children. Let go and let God. :wink: He will give you peace about whatever happens. promise :)

[luvmy4sons]

I am an old L&D nurse. But I need more info. What virus?

[Mab]

Hi Leslie,
You won't believe it, but i somehow contracted the Ecoli in my blood. (i was in hospital for monitoring since i was bleeding and we did not know why)
the fatal evening, i was 100%. my husband left at about 8pm and i was fine. the lights were out at what, 9 or 10pm.. i was fine. 2 the next morning, my body went into septic shock. the rest.. well, i would rather forget for now - I just know it is through the grace of God that I am here still.
I have been doing research on VBa2C - and find that it is not such a risk. well, some say it is not, other say it is...
I desperately would like to try natural (since with my first i don't think i even had contractions, and i don't think i my cervix even started to "thin".

besides, last time i was in theater - did not end very well...

This time, I have had NO complications with my pg. I think i have already started dilating - but i have not mentioned this to the doctor - he does not check that yet. cause i think he would want to book me in immediately if he knew...
I would like this child to come when he is good and ready. Let the Lord's Will be done.

[luvmy4sons]

I am not a doctor. But based on what you have told me I can't see why you couldn't try to VBAC. E-Coli is not prohibitive to trying, though there are other vaginal infections taht might be. I saw many successful VBAC's though can't recall specifically any that had two c-sections and then a VBAC. It is possible there were, and maybe I just don't remember it. I do not know the statistics andrecommendations for VBAC after 2 C-sections, though it looks as if you have researched it. :)

That being said, I do hope that the Lord works it out for you to experience a vaginal birth. I surely understand that desire. I would figure if He truly wants to bless you with that you will find a doctor who believes it to be safe. I would definitely ask DH to pray about it and get some direction from him, as I believe God does lead the family through the husband ( God woke Joseph to go to Egypt, not Mary) If God opens those doors then that might be a good indicator that all is a go.

A gentle reminder though that the objection of being pregnant is to come out with a healthy baby. And the experience isn't nearly as important as that. I was also witness to a uterine rupture with a girl who was VBAC 10 months after her first C-section due to breech presentation. The baby now has mild cerebral palsy. :(

There is risk involved in getting into a car each day...but we do what we can to minimize that risk like putting on our seat belt. Well, there are risks just in being pregnant, but we do what we can to minimize those risks. So just remember, if God closes the doors( you can't find a doctor or hubby is uncomfortable with you trying) that the most important thing is protecting your life and the life within you!

I do hope and pray that God will throw wide those doors and you safely experience the natural birth of your child. I can understand that desire. [hug] I will be praying for wisdom, discernment and answer to prayer! [heart] [prayer]

[gamommyto4girls]

Hi-
Please, please keep me posted on your situation! I am expecting my 4th daughter in May. My first was a natural birth, the second a c-section due to breech presentation, I planned to VBAC with my third (doctor somewhat reluctant but finally agreed). Unfortunately I went into pre-mature labor at 34 weeks. She was also breech and there was not enough time to try and turn her externally- thus section#2. This baby is not breech so far (others were by now) and I am praying about trying for another VBAC.
I would also appreciate prayer support and any advice from someone with similiar circumstances. I visit my doc. again on Tuesday and we will make a tentative decision on whether or not to try. He has not committed either way yet.
I will pray about your situation also... keep us posted.
Beth
a/k/a
gamommyto4girls

[LadyLavender]

A good friend of mine went through this decision making process recently- she had one C-section, and wanted to try for a V delivery.

What ended up making her decision is that she and her DH want several more children- her doctor explained to her that her uterus could rupture during a V birth, at which point they would have to remove it- which means no more children.

She ended up having the second C-section instead- and afterwards, her doctor told her that her uterine wall was so thin that it certainly would have ruptured if she had tried for the V birth.

That's all of my experience on the subject. :) Personally, I have had one V-birth, and one C-section, and I don't think I enjoyed one more than the other. I can certainly understand your feelings as well, though. I would agree with Leslie that keeping the focus on a healthy baby/healthy outcome is the most important.

Hugs to you, and we're here to support you whatever you decide!

[gamommyto4girls]

Hi,
Just wondering how you're doing with your decision. I've been praying about this same issue myself as I mentioned in a prior post. Have you been able to come to an agreement with your doc? I pray that whatever the method you have a safe birth and a healthy child! I am still unsure of how my own situation will evolve but will you keep you posted.
Blessings,
Beth

[Mab]

Hi Beth
Well, this week i am feeling down about it all again - i guess - not as good as i would like.
I accept if there is complications - then the c/s would be fine. but i just cannot swollow this elect c/s - but it does not seem like my doc is going to change his mind. he is stalling it as long as possible. - guess he is hoping that with the heat around here, i will beg him closer to the time... (but he does not know me)
anyway, he said next week we will finerlize it. :cry:

I am still praying the Lord will interven with this one. and at one stage i felt so tired of the stuggle - and to just give up, but then, it feels like the whole world (everyone i meet) keeps talking ceasor over me, and everyone is more keen on me going that way, (cause we last a child last time - not due to pregnancy / birth complications - may i add!) anyway, i am just so irritated with everyone's comments about the birth that it actually makes me feel sick! I feel that no one around me understand how i fee. (okay, with except of the special ladies on this web site)

My doc is thinking of the 28 Feb, at one stage, we were trying for the 5 March. - but by the end of the first week of March - all should be over.

By the way, If you have had v/b - your chances of vbac is very good, from all i read at least. Do a search on VBAC on the net - you will be surprised at the info you find. All the best. let me know how it goes with you. I pray the Lord will guide you with your decision, and give you peace in your heart about it too.

[Ren]

no advice just (((((hugs))))) -ren

[gamommyto4girls]

Thanks for the update and hope I didn't drag up any painful feelings. I'll keep you in prayer during these next few weeks.
Beth

[Cristina]

[pray] Praying for you

[Mab]

Just a quick update...
Through lots of prayers, the Lord kept me "calm" though my appointment today. I don't think i behaved so badly. :oops:
anyway, My DH managed to set the date for the 5th March. (where doc was looking at a good week earlier)
My due date is 9th March - I don't think we will be able to make it later than that...
I did mention that I would prefer the baby comes when HE is GOOD & READY... but doc was not keen, cause it would mean emergancy c/s etc. this way he thinks it will be calmer.
Anyway, now i can just pray that the Lord will let this child arrive before the 5th - and before the doctor stops him.
else... we will be under the blade. :(

Thanks for your prayers & support.
will keep you posted when we are home with the little man. :)

[gamommyto4girls]

Mab,
Thanks for the update, will be praying for you.
Beth