View Full Version : UK social services trying to steal kids who are Home Educated!!


Eva
03-19-2010, 06:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf5XR7w9H-Y

My FIL taped something off the TV for me stating how the Social Services in the UK are taking kids from parents because they Homeschool. The government are making up lies so that they can take children away from their loving parents. There are so many cases of it happening in the UK. Crazy.

The uk is the only EU country to allow "forced adoption", and the only EU country to gag parents and jail them if they protest publicly

More info on the state of the UK:
http://www.forced-adoption.com/introduction.asp
www.justice-for-families.org.uk/

GenLovesDen4ever
03-19-2010, 08:31 PM
Eva, I dont have time to look at those links just yet. Now, I wouldnt be surprised if it did happen but I had only heard that they were beginning to relook at laws about homeschooling bc of some high profile abuse cases where a child was abused and neglected and when school authorities became suspicious the mother took her out of school to be home educated. They pretty much leave kids and parents alone, I guess depending on the council/jurisdicion they live in. When we were home educating they left us alone completely. I liked the freedom they gave us actually. I will look into it tho. The young girl in that case eventually died of her abuse and neglect. When the local education authority went to do their normal biannual checks they didnt have the authority to even question the child alone and if the parents refused to see them, they werent allowed to force themselves.

So, well, Ill do some digging myself and let you know what I think about it all probably after this weekend, when I get a chance.

Obviously, if this is going on, the news most likely wont talk about it but, I dont know. There have been some really big high profile cases where they dont take kids out of the family home and they've ended up dead. I mean, like I said all this could be true, but there could be an element of paranoia going on... idk.

Eva
03-19-2010, 09:22 PM
I know what you're saying Gen and I know of the exact story you are talking about. But there are about 1000 cases+ each year of children being taken into care from loving parents for no reason and the parents haven't broken the law at all. I think a lot of the British public don't believe it as it's all very secret. There are secret family courts that take these children away and the parents aren't allowed to speak about it or the will get thrown in prison. So then most of the public doesn't know about it and thinks it's absurd bcuz it does sound like a crazy thing to happen. Here is another link where Alex Jones is speaking to a British MP who is trying to fight for these families.


http://www.youtube.com/user/UKSecretCourts#p/u/17/FQ1zjyyUpzk

And this is the one I watched:

http://www.youtube.com/user/UKSecretCourts#p/u/13/xJD9Gb3Dv7w

I look forward to hearing your thoughts:-D

leona
03-20-2010, 06:56 AM
I don't know what's wrong with britain , sorry i do gorden brown that man is a pain. i don't know about the homeschooling thing apart from the link you posted on fb, but i know where i live there is a shortage of health visitors and when i met my health visitor she told me that i wouldn't see her again unless i had a problem , so no 2yr check or any checks and they wonder why a little girl was murderded by her parents only a few roads away (awful) i definatly agree the goverment is harressing and penalising good/innocent people and letting the real villans run amock. sorry can you tell i won't be voting labour lol.

GenLovesDen4ever
03-23-2010, 09:36 AM
I do not deny this is happening. Its all very very disturbing. Ive obviously never heard of the secret courts etc. Thats the nature of it all isnt it, keeping it secret. When I think back, there have been one or two small news pieces revealing this, but isnt that just the way of things, that the media will tell us a small segment of really very important news worthy events, but then nothing, the issue vanishes into thin air.

Why should these courts be held in secret? and why should they not be of public concern? Its all very disturbing. I dont think this is anything new tho.

What is so screwed up is that there are cases where children should be taken from parents, or atleast something needs to be done as an intervention sort of tactic, but they arent. It would seem that the interest of the child, the PEOPLE (the drug addicted mothers, the fathers, the children) involved is not of primary concern, wouldnt it? The entire system is completely and utterly screwed... I think they like it that way tho... (they being those pulling the strings). This is the state of things. Its not just here in the Uk. Its happening ALL over the 'free' world.

Im just listening to the second part of the Brian Gerrish interview and he mentions plymouth city council and this is where I live!! I had always been afraid of something like that happening, I think its one of parents worst nightmares.

I mean, what more can we say. There's documented evidence this happens. It leaks out into the public domain from time to time but what can we do?

I dont know what else to say. Ive seen a few things by Brian Gerrish on youtube. I might look more into what he's got to say bc what Ive heard from him sounds spot on. That the government has an agenda driven to destroy families, for one.

The fact that british society, of US society, society in general, isnt 'falling apart', it is being deliberately torn apart, it all seems like madness sometimes, and thats bc it IS madness.

Im not sure there IS much more we can do but continue to follow the Lord and be in constant prayer.

Its just another sign of the times imho.

Eva
03-23-2010, 06:50 PM
I totally agree Gen! I was getting all worried the other night but dh just said that he wasn't worried and he reminded me that God is sovereign. Even though the governments around the world are the evilest of evil, God is the ultimate power. Jayne posted a great quote on her facebook today and it just really spoke to me and I think it's true for this kind of thing.

"Never be afraid to trust an unknown future to a known God. " Corrie Ten Boom

You are so right Gen. We just have to continue to follow the Lord and be in constant prayer. This whole situation has just reminded me to be wary of who I tell what to, iykwim.

On a side note, have you heard of the recent campaign by the UK government to report "suspicious" behavior? They are basically telling people to report any suspicious behavior as a bid to "crack down on terrorism". Terrorism my butt! More like that want to make us suspicious of our neighbors. And then you'll get people reporting anything and everything and innocent normal people being persecuted/prosecuted. These are sad times:( More reason to get on our knees and get out evangelising!

GenLovesDen4ever
03-23-2010, 06:58 PM
funny you mention that, bc I dont have time to go and read what I wrote but I think I edited the parts about what Brian Gerrish said about the news making us paranoid towards each other. Interesting thing tho, when us believers read the word we read that we are a safe haven for our neighbours. They will trust in us in time of troubles.

Who are the terrorists?? I think we are smarter then they'd like us to be!

[crossheld]

ChamomileFriend
03-24-2010, 08:37 AM
That is really scary - I was reading this one:
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article7052599.ece

They wanted to "intervene" and possibly remove the child from them bec the mother cuddled her daughter too much (?!) and explained to her that she was born by c-section which was labeled "emotional abuse" then her hubby was arrested for not cooperating with them when - that is insane.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6388655/They-wanted-to-take-away-our-child.html
This article is about families whose children were nearly taken from them for various reasons - one family because they wanted to send their child to a school for the blind. Wow. just wow.