View Full Version : Tolerating milk and certain other foods?
mamallama 01-15-2007, 02:18 PM Anyone else have children who cannot tolerate cow's milk or other foods? I am starting to see a pattern with dd. It seems she gets sick when she drinks too much milk - 2% cow's milk. Also, and I know this is not healthy to begin with but, believe me, we don't do this often...McDonald's food. On occasion I let dd have a happy meal. We always make sure that she gets the apple dippers and milk so that way it is halfway healthy. But the last few times she has gotten sick afterwards. I'm thinking it is the chicken nuggets as that is her favorite??
I, personally, have not had a good experience with them as far as customer service goes. One time I went with my mom and dad and they actually gave me a partially eaten sandwich!! :shock: [crybawl] That was horrible. They apologized and gave me a fresh sandwich and two free apple pies...but c'mon. How many other people has this happened to!? No matter how I look at it...I think that from now on my family will be ANTI McDonald's. (especially if dd is allergic) I'm rambling now...but anyways...anyone else have similar problems with their kids?
Cheeseburger 01-15-2007, 02:31 PM I've never had any problems, but thought i would throw this in:
Our bodies have a limited amount of the chemical or enzyme that can digest cow's milk... i forget what it is called. anyway, everyone has different amounts and i think women have less than men? So if anybody drinks TOO MUCH milk for their system, they get sick. So, your daughter may not have a lot of that chemical/enzyme.
also, mcdonald's chicken nuggets are greasy. to digest grease, your stomach releases acid, but when you drink milk, your stomach wants to become LESS acid so the milk does not curdle as much. So when you eat lots of grease, you should drink something acidic like orange juice to help digest it, (if dh and i eat bacon we always drink OJ with it). Drinking milk(or eating ice cream etc) after instead can make you feel sick because your acid content is lowered, but the grease is still there and not getting properly digested. I too feel yucky and naseous when I drink milk/dairy after having a very greasy meal.
Some people have more problems with this than others... some people have "iron stomachs". I find I am usually ok, but when it gets to be extreme amounts of grease/milk I have trouble. Perhaps your dd is just more sensitive.
hope this helps?
Also, the partially eating sandwich thing, gross!!!
mamallama 01-15-2007, 02:45 PM Thanks Cheeseburger (May I please ask what you first name is...I feel really weird calling you this?? :oops:), your post was very helpful!! That makes a lot of sense. It probably had to do with a grease/acid imbalance. ::I am making a mental note for the future::
Cheeseburger 01-15-2007, 02:50 PM My real name is Nichole! :D
I was thinking and I bet Orthodox Jews never have this problem because they never eat meat/dairy together... maybe they know what they are talking about ;)
I've never had any problems, but thought i would throw this in:
Our bodies have a limited amount of the chemical or enzyme that can digest cow's milk... i forget what it is called.
It's called lactase.
And pastuerized milk is anything but healthy, so no need having dd drink it if it makes her sick.
The proper food combining gurus say always to drink milk alone, b/c it's so hard to digest that consuming it w/ other foods puts stress on the digestive system.
Cheeseburger 01-15-2007, 06:14 PM Why is pasteurized milk unhealthy? Do you have information on how/why it's unhealthy?
justmeNmine 01-15-2007, 08:26 PM I have never had problems with milk or dairy products, but I did notice that my son (3 1/2) seems to get sick when he has hotdogs. I think I'm gonna try the turkey dogs because he loves them, but we don't have them often and I'm thinking his stomach can't handle the grease. We do have McD's about twice/month so maybe that's why the greasy nuggets haven't bothered him...
pioneerchristianmomof3 01-15-2007, 09:00 PM My dd#2 was very allergic to milk and soy as a baby/young child. She would get horrible eczema, stomach aches, diareha(sp?) and sometimes would vomit.
F.Y.I. McDonalds chicken mcnuggets contain milk products, so if dd is allergic to milk that would be why she gets sick.
jen1981 01-15-2007, 10:11 PM I noticed you said you always get milk with her happy meals. It could be that, not the nuggets too, or a combination of both.
Why is pasteurized milk unhealthy? Do you have information on how/why it's unhealthy?
I copied this from mercola.com:
Myth: Milk Does a Body Good
Commercial pasteurized milk is not a health food and should be avoided. It is primarily the pasteurization process, combined with the source of largely unhealthy cows, that is the problem. When milk is pasteurized the structure of the milk proteins changes (denaturization) into something far less than healthy.
Then, of course there is the issue of the hormones, antibiotics and pesticides and the fact that nearly all commercial dairy cows are raised on grains, not grass, like they were designed to. This will change the composition of the fats, especially the CLA content.
I believe Sally Fallon of the Weston Price Foundation says it best:
Pasteurization destroys enzymes, diminishes vitamin content, denatures fragile milk proteins, destroys vitamin B12 and vitamin B6, kills beneficial bacteria, promotes pathogens and is associated with allergies, increased tooth decay, colic in infants, growth problems in children, osteoporosis, arthritis, heart disease and cancer.
Calves fed pasteurized milk die before maturity.
Raw milk sours naturally, but pasteurized milk turns putrid and processors must remove slime and pus from pasteurized milk by a process of centrifugal clarification. Inspection of dairy herds for disease is not required for pasteurized milk. The practice of heating milk to kill germs was instituted in the 20s to combat TB, infant diarrhea, undulant fever and other diseases caused by poor animal nutrition and dirty production methods.
But times have changed and modern stainless steel tanks, milking machines, refrigerated trucks and inspection methods make pasteurization absolutely unnecessary for public protection. Clean raw milk from certified healthy cows is available commercially in several states and may be bought directly from the farm in many more. By executive order, it is forbidden to transport raw milk across state lines.
This is particularly sad because milk is one of the healthiest foods available prior to its being pasteurized.
So, there is a major distinction needed in the prevalent belief that milk is good for you--it should be RAW milk, as raw milk does provide many outstanding health benefits.
pioneerchristianmomof3 01-16-2007, 03:20 PM That is sooooo frusterating! In Canada it is illegal to sell raw milk, or to even give it away if it's for human consumption.GRRRRR!
In the US it's legal 4 small farmers to sell it, but not 4 grocery stores. Makes it hard when you live in a suburban or urban area.
4Angelz 01-16-2007, 05:04 PM I can't offer advice on what your dd is going through. However, I'll tell you that from the time I was pregnant with my dd, I quit McDonalds. My body seemed to reject anything that wasn't good for me. I ended up eating more grains, fruits, and vegetables than I had in my life up to that point. 4 years later, I still don't eat it. I decided that if it wasn't good for my pregnant body, i didn't want it polluting my unpregnant body. Then 2 years ago I watched that documentary called Supersize Me and I new that I'd made the right decision. No one in my family eats from there; its highly bad for the body.
~Tara~ 01-16-2007, 05:28 PM I think the milk thing has been covered well enough.
What about the nuggets (other than the milk/milk products in them) ... they're fried in hydrogenated oils which can produce nasty results as well. In those who are sensitive to such, especially. That may mean 'simply' an upset tummy or they may act hyper, as in the case of my children. And a whole range of things in between I'm sure.
And what about the apple dippers? What exactly is the dip? (I don't recall) Is it yogurt, if so..there's more milk. Caramel? Again, more milk (and the sugar content added to that may also do a number on one).
It could very well be a reaction to the WHOLE thing together. Maybe you could try next time just giving the nuggets, but she drink water and no dip for the apples. See if that changes anything.
Have you tried to give your ds lactose free milk. My ds is sensitive to cows milk...so I gave him lactose free milk his stomach doesnt get upset anymore. My brother is lactose intolerent he would vomit and get migrains from dairy.
Know about the half eaten sandwich... :shock: WHAT IN THE WORLD!! How did they try to explain that one?
mamallama 01-17-2007, 11:42 AM And what about the apple dippers? What exactly is the dip? (I don't recall) Is it yogurt, if so..there's more milk. Caramel? Again, more milk (and the sugar content added to that may also do a number on one).
It's caramel dip so yeah, more milk in there. I'm just going to steer clear of McDonald's altogether. But next time we do go out to eat somethign that is greasy I will just make sure that she doesn't drink milk. You know, it's funny. Most places we eat at, she does drink water and there is never a problem. She does fine drinking some milk at home but we eat a lot healthier at home too.
mamallama 01-17-2007, 11:44 AM Have you tried to give your ds lactose free milk. My ds is sensitive to cows milk...so I gave him lactose free milk his stomach doesnt get upset anymore. My brother is lactose intolerent he would vomit and get migrains from dairy.
Know about the half eaten sandwich... :shock: WHAT IN THE WORLD!! How did they try to explain that one?
I was talking about my dd. But my ds is allergic to the fats in milk. Maybe that has something to do with it. He does fine with fat free milk. He is also allergic to grease in meals as well. He can't eat anything overly greasy without getting sick to his stomach. Maybe I should just stick to buying fat free milk for both of them and see if it changes anything.
Godzgirl 01-17-2007, 12:55 PM You know my daughter also had a problem with milk. She wouldn't feel good after drinking it. I started to buy organic milk and she's able to handle it. Maybe you could try that. The organic milk has no added hormones or antibiotics that the regular milk has.
As far as McDonalds goes i don't trust it and don't go there. I have gotten food poisnend there three times. Twice when i went on my own and once with my daughter. She also got sick and i felt so bad. :cry: So we are anti-McDonalds. They have made the food less greasy and healthier by using white meat but to be honest i still don't think it's real meat. :shock: My bestfriend used to work there and he says that you just don't want to know! :shock: YUCK!!!
Cheeseburger 01-17-2007, 06:33 PM As far as McDonalds goes i don't trust it and don't go there. I have gotten food poisnend there three times. Twice when i went on my own and once with my daughter. She also got sick and i felt so bad. :cry: So we are anti-McDonalds. They have made the food less greasy and healthier by using white meat but to be honest i still don't think it's real meat. :shock: My bestfriend used to work there and he says that you just don't want to know! :shock: YUCK!!!
It is real meat, you just don't want to know how they get it. They get it the same way they get hotdog meat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanically_separated_meat
yum yum!
Godzgirl 01-17-2007, 06:49 PM LOL! Real meat or not real meat all i know is that the workers at McDonald's call it mystery meat.
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