My temp spiked .5 on one bbt, and .3 on the older one (usually I have a slow rise). It's in my post-O temp range now. Should get up to 98.x later this week. Dec 14/cd 15 Ovulation. Best egg ever + best seed, considering hubby has been taking his vitamins for months now, incl. those helpful for his count... for the first time. Most prayer ever... my edd would be Monday, September 6, 2010.

I hope I can get into the Dr. again just before New Years, but... iffy... I should call today and see if he'll be in. If this cycle doesn't work out I may have to wait a cycle before trying again-- if he takes a long christmas vakay.

Aww Rachel you know me by now i don't have a clue what the all the temp and other stuff mean lol but i like the sound of september the 6th praying hun and believing this is your month , have fun ;)

praying here Rachel!

Praying Rachel! This is going to be a long two weeks, lol.

oh so many prayers my sweet friend!

I feel so dumb, I have 5 refills on this clomid prescription, so... round 2 straight away if this is a negative. But I called the obgyn and then the pharmacy to find this out.... so REP:5 really does mean 5 refills (I guess) ;). And I can't find hubby's analysis instructions... need to get that taken care of since I'll probably be into the obgyn next month anyway. I'd like to know how he's doing whether we're preggo first go or not.

Also, free charting!
http://www.fertilitygal.com/
And you're/I'm allowed to sign up, go figure. Yes, that's a dig @FF:)

Woo hoo! i'm praying here Rachel!! I hope this is your BFP, gal!

You know I'm here praying, Rach! I'm so excited!! I'm so happy you have five refills just in case...consistancy is very important in all areas of ttc!

Come on 2 weeks!:)

Praying you have a baby in your arms in September!!!

Paloma.

Praying for God to touch your womb this month!!! (((HUGS))) Love you dearie![loveyou]

Rachel, I can't breathe! I have to force myself not to think about you preggers, hon. I get so invested... ugh!

[loveyou]

Joy [welcomewave]

Praying for you, Rach! [loveyou]

Praying, praying, praying!!![loveyou]

praying here too!!!

Rachel, I am so excited for you and have not been able to stop thinking about you. I really hope this is *IT* for you!! Praying!! [prayer]

Praying for you hun

WOO HOO! Ptl for this 2ww! I hope and pray that there is a little bean getting extra sticky in there!

All those stats sound really good, girl! Hang in there for the next 2 weeks - make sure you've got stuff to do to keep you busy! (like Christmas won't be enough... lol) When do you POAS?

Praying......

yes yes when's the poas date!?! :)

Yesterdays spike may have been a fluke, because today my temp plummeted well below previous temps. I am very borderline as far as that positive OPK still being valid, and know a sudden drop can be O day. So maybe yesterday was a fluke and today is O.. bd anyway.
Guess I really should wait for 3 days of high temps before starting a 2ww thread ;)
I won't really be able to test before Christmas either way. It'll be New Year's news.

Charting can get confusing, especially when you're excited and waiting to see that dip and rise! :) We sooooo understand, Rachel! Hope this is it, gal! Either way, we're waiting with you~ :)

Rachel sometimes some women can get a dip after the rise and it will bounce back up right after and the first rise is the one that counts. . .Just to encouarge. . .maybe you work a little different on clomid???? I will ball like a baby when you say your preggers. . .that's why I'm trying to control my excitement cause I don't want to over do it for you if it doesn't work out this cycle.. . I'm hoping for the 6th- that's branodn's b-day (and davidsmom's baby daniel too=)- good day;) I would love to be celebrating bran's third and praying for you baby's birth!! Ok calming down.. . praying.

Maybe, I hope. I went up .5 this morning (just below what I thought was the initial spike). It rose kind of fast because I tested middle of the night because I woke, it was still very low, but it rose after I went back to sleep. I've checked that before, my temp every few hours in the morning, and I don't rise fast normally. So maybe the progesterone is kicking in now... ugh.. but I need it a little higher... like another .5. Guess I'll know by Sunday if it already occurred. Tomorrow (I think) is the last day that if I've O'd, it was the Clomid working. Just starring at the + OPK wondering what went wrong.. if it was a false positive. Something wrong with my.. fsh hormone is it? I don't look forward to a bunch of tests but maybe it'll take that.

"The theory of fallback rise is that the estrogen level is still dropping after the LH level has dropped, and the progesterone levels have not risen high enough to push the temperatre up."

Easily, I suppose.. considering I must have had double the estrogen if the Clomid worked. Guess I'll know soon enough! Possibly won't be able to know if I O'd on day 15 or 17, but it would have had to be one of those if my temps stay up this time.

Won't be testing til New Years...

I'll be praying through-out the holidays for you Rach! [praying]

Man, New Years is like riiiiiiiight around the corner, but I know when you're waiting to POAS, it's like getting a tooth pulled... it draaaaaaaaaaaaags! Praying that you get to keep busy and that it doesn't drag for you gal! May I recommend the First Response Early Results test? :) I never got a fasle positive on those and have taken (easily) over 40 of them. :) hehehe I can't wait, Rachel!!!

97.7's this AM. Still waiting for a 98, maybe I don't get those after O anymore.. idk. Still unconvinced.[whatwacko] Will probably baby dance a couple days next week just in case.

A little baby dancing every now and then does a body good...regardless of what time of month it is! Hehe!!! Praying daily for those eggs and sperm!!!

Yeah, ditto-ing Katie~ ;) ::snort:: We're all praying for you, Rachel! :)

Wow... I have not been on here in a while, but Rachel! I too do not know what all of these terms mean, but I will be praying for you also!!

I am curious...is your doc checking your progesterone level after a confirmed O? Are they doing any other tests during your cycle or just letting you have a go at clomid, progesterone supps and see what happens? Also, when did you start the progesterone? I have low progesterone and have had to take vag suppositories for two of my pregnancies and I never started taking it until two days AFTER my temp spike.

I'm just curious as to what your doc is having you do. There are many different ways doctors do or do not monitor a clomid cycle. I just wondered what your plan is.

I never had the ultrasound to check folicle size. I never had a trigger shot to induce ovulation, but I did have my progesterone levels checked after confirmed O a few cycles before I started progesterone. I was on 50mg when I got pg with Em and my progesterone that cycle was at about 60 (no need for progesterone there!). When I went on clomid to get pg with Mak, I started at 50mg and my progesterone level that cycle was around 6 (that is too low to support a pg). That is when we upped the clomid to 100mg and put me on progesterone.

I hope and pray you get your BFP soon! You are on the same time frame as I was with Em and Mak. I got pg with both in Dec. Em was the first part of Dec. She was due Aug. 25th, came Sept. 1st, and Mak was due Sept. 16th, came Sept. 11th. This is an awesome time to be pg, and Sept is a great time to have a newborn....you will like it!

Blessings dear sister!
Amber

He's only having me chart this cycle. I guess because my LP has always been solid? I've been taking all the vitamins and minerals etc. anyway, that are supposed to naturally help progesterone levels.

My bbt temp is 97.9 now, just .1 from that 98 I'd love to see, but it's still a high post-O temp for me. I don't know why I'm still so hesitant to believe the clomid worked? I just want to see that 98!! and a bfp:)

I just want to see that 98!! and a bfp:)

Me, too! [loveyou]

Me, too! [loveyou]

ditto!! So what's your testing date again, Rachel?? :D

I'll probably cave and test around 1 week from now, but New Year's for sure

I so hope this round works for you! I would encourage you to ask for a progesterone level, that way you can up your clomid if your progesterone level is low. Sometimes it takes a while to get the right dosage for your body to work correctly.

I had my levels checked during one cycle, but the doc was on vacation when the results came in and I ended up starting another cycle at the same dose because he was still on vacation when the new cycle started. Come to find out my progesterone was so low the second cycle was a waste because my progesterone level was too low to support a pregnancy. I ended up hoping on a cycle that never would have worked because I didn't know what my progesterone level was. After we found that out, we upped the clomid and then introduced progesterone post ovulation....low and behold....Makelah! :-D

I am praying for you this cycle...having hope is so exciting! Remember...dollar tree tests are awesome if you have a pee on a stick obsession....lol! (both Noah and Mak are dollar tree test babies! heehee)

Remember to rest in Him...for your womb will only open by His hand! I am praying with and for you sweet sister!

Blessings,
Amber

been busy this weekend but, had to pop in here and find out how it's going. . .SOUNDS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Praying for a positive baby test!!!!!!!

Got another 98 this morning. If there are babies in there, implantation would be any day now. So I'll post here if i notice any spotting. Otherwise.. AF is due 28th or 30th.

wohoo this is exciting Rachel!

Praying you get your BFP Rachel!!

I wake up thinking about you rachel!!!! I so, hope this is your month!!! praying. . .

I'm praying that the Lord prepares your heart for whatever the outcome is of the test!!!
But I'm sure praying hard hard hard it's positive for you!!

I'm 8dpo today and my temps went from there typical steady climb to my normal 97.9,98.0... to an above normal.. a 98.4 today, .4 spike, so possibly start of a triphasic chart... doesn't necessarily mean anything, but does occur more often after implantation. And yes, I am slowly being driven insane. Also having some breast tenderness. But I may just be wired hormonally because of the Clomid. At least we're in the 1ww now.

Ok.. I totally read one of your posts wrong, I'm such a doofus![whatwacko]
Anyway.. I'm so excited for you Rachel!! Constantly thinking and praying for you!! :-D

Thinking of you and praying. [lovingsmiley]

this is the LONGEST 2ww EVER![whatwacko] Praying for you my dear sister. is there some place I can see your chart?

Hope you can see it:
http://www.fertilitygal.com/BBTChart/Possible-fallback-rise-possible-triphasic.htm

so cooooool! i could see your chart - keeping an eye on you and a prayer too! hugs.

thankyou for posting your chart. . .that is REALLY exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *giddy*

praying for you rachel!

HOW EXCITING! Sure looks promising. Continued prayers Rachel.

Praying, gal!!!!!

any updates, sistah? hugs.

nah, no positives yet

updated chart
http://www.fertilitygal.com/BBTChart/first-Clomid-cycle-.htm

Got a temp .1 higher than any before, this morning.
But wondering if the Clomid could explain that away.

so exciting!! are you testing tomorrow?

I doubt it, gonna wait and see.

oh man this is killin' us, can't imagine the pins and needles you are on Rachel!

Continued prayers my friend.

hugs

Very exciting!

I hope we aren't pestering you too much Rach. We are just SO excited for you and praying hard this is it. [loveyou]

It looks like Af started today......I want to encourage you because I know the expectation that comes with starting clomid. I always hoped and prayed that it would work the first time. The Lord had other plans, and I had to be patient and wait 3 cycles of clomid for Em, and 4 clomid cycles for Mak. They are here, they are beautiful, and they were totally worth the wait!

Just because it didn't work the first time doesn't mean it won't work. I would encourage you to do some research on the days to take the clomid...I always took it either 2-6 or 3-7. I found that most research shows a higher success rate the earlier you take the meds. My doc usually said to take it 5-9 but after doing my own research, I switched days. When I went to a new doc for the clomid that ended up in Mak I told the doc what days I wanted to take it and he agreed.

I hope you are doing well and are not too discouraged!
blessings,
Amber

That's just fertilitygal automatically marking AF at the end of the likely LP phase. But it could come tomorrow...

That's just fertilitygal automatically marking AF at the end of the likely LP phase. But it could come tomorrow...

Oooo... I hope AF stays away and you get a BFP instead! ;) Still praying, Rachel!!![praying]

Oh yeah then!! I was bummed, but knew the Lord has a plan for you! I hope now that His plan is for a BFP!!! I will keep praying AF stays away for at least 10 months!

Blessings,
Amber

Your chart looks good so far Rachel! Praying those temps stay up and you get that long awaited BFP!

gosh where have i been lol , Rachel how exciting :-D

How you doing today, Rachel?? :)

Any testing going on? I am biting my nails waiting!

Lord, we ask for your will to be done...and we pray that a little sweet baby is in that will, Lord! I pray for peace for whatever comes out of Rachel's cycle Lord! You are the one who opens our wombs and we ask Lord that you have opened Rachel...or will open it soon! I ask these things is Jesus precious name! Amen!

Here for you gal!
Amber

98.4 bbt--so still in that tri-phasic zone if it's even legit, cramps here and there... unfortunately my bbt doesn't usually go down much until after AF is here. So I'm not safe today despite the high temp... pins and needles and kind of emotionally preparing myself for a let down. Want to start the year on a hopeful note even if I get my period.

what dpo are you?

13dpo IF cd15 O, if by chance that fallback rise was the actual O though then I'd be 11dpo. By my LP has always been a staunch 12 1/2 days. Have read clomid can extend it tho? It's sure upped me a cup size. here's to hoping it lasts!

Have you retested or just holding out for AF or no AF? Sitting on pins and needles here gal! :)

Go to the dollar tree buy 100 tests and pee every few hours or so for us......what? like it's not been done before haahaa!!!!

I guess you should be getting either a BFP or AF soon...the wait will be over soon, PTL! We will rejoice with you either way because it's in the Lord's hands (and that's an awesome place for anything to be)!


blessings,
Amber

POAS already, girl! LOL! I'm tortured on pins and needles over here. I totally understand, though, if you don't want to join me in the POAS addiction. [rofl]

Praying for a BFP for you!

I've been secretly testing every morning to no avail. >>

Don't feel bad about that.....most of us have been there! It helps calm our reality a bit!!

blessings,
Amber

thanks for updating your chart. . .it was on my mind- I've wanted to see it again for the last two days. . .are you supposed to get your period tomarrow if you're going to get it?? Praying you don't but, I guess we'll know soon. . .no positive test yet??? pins and needles, pins and needles

Oh man I can not even begin to count how many tests I have taken. I still remember how your stomach feels sick and there is always a torturing hopeful *maybe* on your mind. So hoping and praying that soon you will get that positive! Praying!

I don't think I got my "pregnant" on a digi until 14-17 dpo??

praying God's peace to wash over you...hugs!

How are you today, Rachel! Praying with you sister... for a BFP, or for peace to accept God's perfect will~ My biggest hugs!

No AF yet.. no bfp either

I think I'm going to change my O date to the 17th, that dip.

aww rachel. how you feeling hun? it's so hard waiting to see what happens.

PMS-y and completely drained of energy:/. I am still in my PJs and robe!

aww hun , sending ((hugs)) to you , i know that isn't much help though , but i am thinking of you [loveyou]

Well... here's hoping you're completely wrong and AF stays away. ::hugs::

How ya doing today, Rachel? ::hugs::

Still waiting for an answer one way or another.
It feels like it should be thursday already!:???:

I'm praying for you my friend. I remember how emotionally draining it was when we were trying to get pregnant. God bless!

I remember being very tired when I first became pregnant. Praying that AF comes in oh say....46 weeks or so!

Hehe me too. I guess if she doesn't show today, either I'll get a bfp or clomid has lengthened my lp cycle. Which I could nix that "or".

Hehe me too. I guess if she doesn't show today, either I'll get a bfp or clomid has lengthened my lp cycle. Which I could nix that "or".

It looks like this is a 13 day LP so far, eh? I'm really hoping for ya!

Praying, hoping, and constantly thinking of you today Rach. :-D

Praying, praying, praying!!! It stinks because AF and super early pregnancy symptoms can feel the same, down to spotting... so... those waiting days are so hard~ Hoping you get a BFP instead of AF, Rachel!

I have to be 14 dpo, at least. I'll test again tomorrow morning. Didn't this morning, because my temp is down .1 (still triphasic though) and it still feels like AF is coming.

This happened once before with a confirmed O, a december I can recall... ended up having a 14-15 day LP. 2-3 days late! And then poof, AF came with a vengeance. I always wondered if the extra few days that month meant we were close but it didn't stick. This time I'll just blame it on the Clomid if Af decides to show late.

Oh I am sorry for the torture. ~praying ~praying!!

I know it is hard to wait but the maybe is so exciting.. hoping. :-D

Ooooh, how exciting! *munches popcorn*

suspense is killing me. . .tomarrow is thursday. . .almost there. . .oh, for a "happy NEW year"

My last LP was 14-15 days, and because of the Progesterone, MAN did AF come with a vengeance when she did! I think the more we build up lining, the rougher AF is...

I sure hope AF doesn't show up for you this month and that you get your BFP Rach!!

Because of BFN's, I'm pretty certain Clomid is just extending my LP and that Af will be here any day now. :neutral: So I guess next week we'll try to get dh in for his "test". Fortunately if Af comes within a week, he won't be working the week I need his attention.

If his test results aren't great, maybe they'll give him clomid or some other medication too.

hugs and prayers for you, Rachel. <3

Sure am sorry, Rachel~ Hopefully it will be soon, since you have this ball rolling now with Clomid and such~ I'm hoping for a 2010 BFP for you! :)

oh, rachel- I'm sorry (still a little hopeful) but, I also have been reading your posts and feeling like the crampy, period feelings were probably not a great sign =( I was doing a lot of praying but, also bighting of tongue- our cycles were close this time and I thought I might have gotten preggers too- but alas, I'm recoving from af. I didn't want to say anything at.all. in either direction so as not to discourage you. Here's hoping we'll be preggers together in the new year!! 2010- it's our year ba~be.

Because of BFN's, I'm pretty certain Clomid is just extending my LP and that Af will be here any day now. :neutral: So I guess next week we'll try to get dh in for his "test". Fortunately if Af comes within a week, he won't be working the week I need his attention.

If his test results aren't great, maybe they'll give him clomid or some other medication too.


Don't give up hope Rachel. It's not over until AF shows up!

Don't give up hope Rachel. It's not over until AF shows up!

I'm with Ruth! I hope AF does not show up and the BFN's are "just flukes"! Either way... still praying for you.

I'm with Ruth! I hope AF does not show up and the BFN's are "just flukes"! Either way... still praying for you.

Ditto ((hugs))

I would love to be shocked with a late +, but after literally hundreds of BFNS I can't even picture it right now.

Don't give up hope Rachel. It's not over until AF shows up!

What Ruth said! With all 3 of my babies I didn't get a BFP until I was 5 days late. I would get BFN's until then. I think my hormone levels didn't go up enough until then. And with Micah I remember the day my period was due that I felt like AF was coming and I was bummed bcuz I was sure she was on her way and I kept getting BFN's too. Then day 5 sure enough got that BFP. Praying for you Rachel!

I would love to be shocked with a late +, but after literally hundreds of BFNS I can't even picture it right now.

It must be so hard, Rachel... one of those, "I'll believe it when I see it..." feelings. Hoping for a surprise announcement soon that instead of AF, you got the BFP!

I'm with the others, dear lil sister. With my first two kids, I was absolutely sure AF was coming, I felt so crampy and PMS'y. I 'learned' after two pregnancies that (as Jen said) PMS and early pregnancy are almost identical. Frustrating. :???:

WHEN you do get your BFP, hon, DO talk to your doc about your progesterone levels. DON'T think your doc will mention it without you saying something. Mine didn't think of checking my progesterone until after I had FOUR totally preventable miscarriages. Low progesterone levels will cause your BFP to show up a little late, too.

[loveyou]

Joy [welcomewave]

Rach, are you taking progesterone during the 2ww? If you are, are you supposed to keep taking it until AF gets here (or BFP :-P), or are you supposed to stop it after Day__? Just curious...

Not taking any creams or anything, but my temps are much higher than normal and I'm what would normally be almost 3 days late now (at least) so it would seem Clomid raised my progesterone too?

I'm still hopeful too;) like the other said- it's not over till "aunt flo" sings. Was just commisserating and taking the oppertunity to say if it's not this time- I hope it's soon for both of us;)

I know how much you really wanted today to be The day. [praying]Praying your day comes soon.

Praying af is still absent and that you get your BFP to start out your New Year with a blessing![praying]

I can only imagine how you are feeling! Praying that you will have peace during this time in your life.

How are you doing Rach?

How are you doing Rach?

I'm thinking of you today, too~ I hope that you are well, hun~

Temps have gone down 2 days in a row (under the coverline today) but still waiting for AF.

Iam not sure what that means hun , but i am thinking of you ((hugs))

Well... not to give you false hope or anything... but my temp did go below my coverline with Wyatt... so that doesn't mean much. :-/ BUT, I'm praying that you get a BFP soon gal! My biggest biggest hugs to you~

Yeah it could be nothing. Usually I don't even have my temp go down until Af is here. Nothing usual about this cycle.

Hmm.. well I'm hiking up the prayers for ya! It must be so hard not having a definite answer either way! ((hugs))

AF is here, I've known for an hour or so--unmistakable cramps. But yeah, she's finally showing. So, 16 day LP on clomid. On to round 2...

Prayers about the sperm test? Hope to turn in a sample next week. Not sure how long it'll take to find out the results.

Sorry to hear about AF Rachel. Lifting you up!

I'm so sorry Rach. I won't quit praying for you friend. ((hugs))

Sorry, Rachel. Thinking of you... and hoping you and your DH can get some answers about his side of things soon. Will keep praying, too.

I am praising the Lord that the clomid did do positive things even though you did not get a BFP. The Lord seems to be allowing changes in your womb, and I pray He is preparing it to open for your sweet little blessing! I encourage you to keep positive. Clomid can be slow going. I also encourage you to ask for a post-o progesterone level this next round. Keep strong sister! We are keeping you at the feet of the Lamb! Blessings, Amber

I'm so sorry... and not totally sure what to say... so just (((hugs))) and prayers that the cramps aren't too bad!

((((hugs))))

I'm so sorry Rachel! praying for you!

At least you have a definite answer now, and you got a muuuuuuuch longer LP with the Clomid... but I'm so sorry it was AF~ I will be praying over the test and that next cycle is it, hun~ ::hugs::

I think I let it out emotionally a couple days ago due to bfns, so I'm feeling normal today. More cramps than usual, but the worst seems to be over. Going to pharmacy tomorrow to get the next batch of Clom!!!

So next dose starts Wed. Ovulating somewhere around Jan 18th give or take a day. SO my next 2ww torture will be Jan 20ish-th to around Feb 6. I'll start a new thread when the nuttiness begins.

Hopefully I'll get an Appt at the end of the month and get a progesterone test from the Doc, and will not hear something totally extreme like dh is only contributing two headed floaters to this cause!:neutral:

I'll be praying with you, Rachel!!! January 18th through February 6th! :)

Keepen on praying for you both - three cheers for the next cycle [loveflag]

...and will not hear something totally extreme like dh is only contributing two headed floaters to this cause!:neutral:
[rotfl]
Glad to see you're keeping your sense of humour through all this! I know how important it is from personal experience... as previously posted, my dh and I joke that his men like to play Duck Duck Goose a little too much, instead of practicing their sprints... :mrgreen: keeps everything much more positive and upbeat that way!

Here we go with the next cycle!

=( about af BUT,
yay! 16 day lp cycle is really good news!
lol about two headed floaters!
next cycle here we come with bucket loads of Hope and prayers!