If you do some and not all please list the ones you do. Thanks :)

No longer vaccinate. Vaccinated youngest two only through age 18 months. If I had a baby today...I would only vaccinate the big "oldie" diseases...DPT, polio, mmr, and hib. I would DELAY vaccines till the child was 9 months if breast feeding. I would insist on one shot at a time. I would use any and all oral or nasal vaccines available. I would not do hepatitis B or any of the hepatitis vaccines or many of the new fangled ones out there now. But that is what we have decided after much prayer and for our own circumstances. Likely won't have a newborn now anyway. We quit all boosters and don't do any of the newer shots. I DO give a tetanus if and only when my child shold have a DEEP puncture wound with a dirty instrument. My 17 year old stepped on a dirty old rusty nail and it went through his shoe and into his foot. We did vaccinate against tentanus at that time. But he was WAY over due for his booster already...we don't boost just because. Tetanus was one dh and I felt we didn't want to mess with but only as the need truly arose. Not for minor cuts and scrapes that you can clean.

It is such a touchy subject...but that is where we are! I know it is a difficult decision. Will be praying.

We are only doing some. We will not be doing any that uses fetal tissue in the production of the vaccines. We will also not get any ones for silly diseases like chickenpox - when i was a kid EVERYONE got the the chickenpox at least once and now they are claiming it's like the leading killer of children in canada? give me a break, i got through chickenpox just fine with plenty of rest, oatmeal baths and tv.

I would insist on one shot at a time.

Yeah I think I'm going to ask if they can leave the MeNZB one till she is 6 months. When they first started vaccinating for MeNZB Abby had to wait till 6 months because they hadn't finished trials on it for 6 week old babies yet. And she was fine. And now they are saying that if you start at 6 weeks they need an extra booster so there are 4 shots instead of 3. And Sophie has to have the Infanrix-IPV and the Hib-HepB ones already and I think 2 injections on one day is enough. Three just seems too much to me. I'm a little worried about her having 3 at once.
I had a look on the internet and it says you can choose to wait until 6 months and then they only need 3 shots but of course it says that it's better to start at 6 weeks otherwise they are left unprotected for longer. I don't know.... I really don't know what I want to do with that.

We quit all boosters....

Really? So they don't need those? I thought that it was a waste of time having the vaccinations unless you finished all the doses. If it's unnecessary for them to have the boosters then I might just get the first lot done.

I DO give a tetanus if and only when my child shold have a DEEP puncture wound with a dirty instrument. My 17 year old stepped on a dirty old rusty nail and it went through his shoe and into his foot. We did vaccinate against tentanus at that time. But he was WAY over due for his booster already...we don't boost just because.

Yeah I'm only planning (at this stage) on having the Tetanus ones done at 5 years and 15 years and then only if they need one after that. Like Paul... he accidentally put his foot down on the corner of a dirty rusty spade and cut it pretty deep. So he had a Tetanus shot then. I haven't had one since I was 15.

It is such a touchy subject...but that is where we are! I know it is a difficult decision. Will be praying.

Thanks Leslie. :) I want to discuss it with my parents because they are both Christians and I want to know how they feel about it. I don't know if my parents know about the whole aborted fetal tissue thing.

We are only doing some. We will not be doing any that uses fetal tissue in the production of the vaccines. We will also not get any ones for silly diseases like chickenpox - when i was a kid EVERYONE got the the chickenpox at least once and now they are claiming it's like the leading killer of children in canada? give me a break, i got through chickenpox just fine with plenty of rest, oatmeal baths and tv.

ITA there on the Chickenpox one. And flu too. Chicken pox is not a big deal IMO Neither is flu. I've had Chicken Pox too and also the flu many times. It is EXTREMELY rare for a child to die from having Chicken Pox. I doubt it is the biggest killer of kids in Canada. :roll: :?

Yeah and they claim used carseats are also the #1 killer of small children. I am not sure how that works. Perhaps it's children with chickenpox who ride in used carseats. LOL

I think it is just propoganda to scare you honestly... not that i recommend using used car seats, because you don't know whether the person before you got in a wreck or not and you aren't supposed to use one after it's been in an accident.

We quit all boosters....

Really? So they don't need those? I thought that it was a waste of time having the vaccinations unless you finished all the doses. If it's unnecessary for them to have the boosters then I might just get the first lot done

They were boostered through the age of 2. But the MMR booster they want to give at 12...we didn't do that. I got my doctor to admit that 95% of all children are immune after the first shot and that they booster the entire population to cover that 5%! Not did the youngest two get the DPT booster at 6! It is a very personal decision. :)

My eldest had all the routine vax for the time. Stopped at 18 mo or whatever...he was 'good to go' til school age at which a school would require 'whatever' shots.
But then we started researching and have not vaxed any of the other 4. None at all.
Heck, my kids haven't even seen a doctor ;)

I have made my views clear on this in other threads. Once again, Ditto to all the anti-vax comments.

In my family, ds got all the "required" school shots (now I know better), but not the booster at 6th grade. DD got her shots up to 18 months or so, and no more will come, unless something drastic happens.

My oldest reacted to something in one of her first vacc with high, prolonged fever and slight seizures so we were advised to keep her away from that particular series. It's amazing how many times we have needed medical confirmation to keep her in school without the vacc during the years. She is going off to college in the fall and we're expecting to need the records again, so just a reminder, get something in writing that describes why a doctor doesn't advise it when it happens. Otherwise, you may move, lose records at the doctor's office, and be in for a struggle with officials.

The other two kids got the series and all the new ones as they came out. Moving to a new state meant even the then middle school aged kids getting a whole series of vacc not required or used in the previous state. There are different kinds of vaccinations available. For a period of time it was recognized that the commonly used base for the vacc was poisonous to the kids and an alternative was found. But that was more expensive for the physicians to use and eventually they began using the more toxic versions again, many without the public's knowledge. I found out at a seminar for medical professionals 2 years ago. The toxic version is most commonly used again today. Scary.

Yes, my daughter had had all her vaccinations and is up to date. :D

Not as infants.

Well, my kids were always behind... due to my laziness :oops: but there aren't very many routine ones given here... but according to my husband the ones given are important... people do die from sickness here that are hardly in existence in north america now-a-days.

I think I've been on my soapbox enough for one weekend :lol: so I'll just give my Readers Digest version: We started out vaxing for the first few months but after ds started getting sick all the time we stopped vaxing and he hasn't been sick since and his allergies completely disappeared. Turns out that he was allergic to some of the ingredients, but we decided to stop vaxing altogether after doing quite a bit of research. If we have more children they will not likely be vaxed at all.

Yeah and they claim used carseats are also the #1 killer of small children. I am not sure how that works. Perhaps it's children with chickenpox who ride in used carseats. LOL

LOL! :lol: You're funny Cheeseburger.

I think it is just propoganda to scare you honestly... not that i recommend using used car seats, because you don't know whether the person before you got in a wreck or not and you aren't supposed to use one after it's been in an accident.

I saw someone selling an expired carseat on the internet recently and that annoyed me. They said it's not good to use in the car but you can use it as a bouncer or something. But they hadn't cut the straps or taken them out. So obviously, someone could buy it and use it as a car seat. I know people do use expired seats. And others, well, they just don't use a seat at all. It's really sad.
ITA about not buying a used car seat. We made that mistake. We were told the seat had never been in an accident and that it was still ok to use. Well, I ended up finding out that it was expired and that it was never good to use for Abby. I was soooo mad. So that went out in our inorganic rubbish collection. So we had to buy a new capsule (infant seat) for Sophie. They are only $179 anyway so if I had known that I probably would have just bought one brand new. We paid $50 for the used one.

We do all but chicken pox. Most of you know, dh is a physician and he would go crazy not having the kiddos vaccinated, however, he is the one who insisted on them not having the chck pox vacc. If you have ever read the thread, "how did you meet dh" you know why. If you haven't, I got the chicken pox as a senior in high school and was EXTREMELY ill. Since it is so much worse in adults, he wanted the kids to be exposed to them as young as possible--and thank GOD, they both were and had a bad enough case of them. That sounds weird--"Im glad my kids had chicken pox." hahaha

I don't think it sounds weird. Some people even have chicken pox parties LOL I won't keep Sophie away from a child with CP. I had it and it isn't that bad. And generally you only get CP once.

We quit all boosters....

Really? So they don't need those? I thought that it was a waste of time having the vaccinations unless you finished all the doses. If it's unnecessary for them to have the boosters then I might just get the first lot done

They were boostered through the age of 2. But the MMR booster they want to give at 12...we didn't do that. I got my doctor to admit that 95% of all children are immune after the first shot and that they booster the entire population to cover that 5%! Not did the youngest two get the DPT booster at 6! It is a very personal decision. :)

Thanks Leslie.

Well, my kids were always behind... due to my laziness :oops: but there aren't very many routine ones given here... but according to my husband the ones given are important... people do die from sickness here that are hardly in existence in north america now-a-days.

Really? That's interesting. It just goes to show that diseases don't disappear.
I think in the US you get a whole lot more vaccinations than we do. The only ones our babies get up to age 4 are the DTaP-IPV, Hib-HepB, MMR and MeNZB. I don't think there are many more... just Tetanus by itself. I think that's it. Flu and Chicken Pox vaccinations are not free so we don't do those. IMO if they were necessary they would be fully subsidised like the others.

In general, vaccines work. We use them. I realize that's it's not the best choice for everyone, but certainly, they work.

Here's a brief statistical comparison of a country that uses MMR vaxes (USA) and one that doesn't (Iran)
USA: pop. ~283 million
Iran: pop. ~70 million

USA: 2005 measles cases: 37
Iran: 2005 measles cases: 11,874

If you account for the difference in population, we have roughly 4 times the population of Iran so if you multiply 11,874 by 4, that'd be 47,496 cases, yet we only had 37.

(Iran seemed to be close to the median so I picked it. Other countries are higher and lower)

Iran isn't really an accurate comparison because about 90% of the people are living below the poverty line in 3rd world conditions; of course their disease rates would be higher. And Iran does immunize against measles: their measles vaccination rates (according to the World Health Organization) are over 80%, versus about 93% in the USA. Yes, there were 37 reported measles cases in 2004 (many of which were in fully-vaccinated individuals, and only about 2 or 3 cases were fatal), but between 1992 and 2002 the following were reported to our government's Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System, shortly following MMR vaccinations:

18,680 adverse reactions
1,736 hospitalizatons
110 deaths

That's an average of 11 MMR vaccine-related deaths per year in the US...versus 2 or 3 measles-related deaths.

Most of my friends immunise - except one of my friends had it suggested to her not to vaccinate until age 2 when the child is more able to cope with being injected like that (she didn't NOT want to immunise, but had qualms).

Most of my friends immunise - except one of my friends had it suggested to her not to vaccinate until age 2 when the child is more able to cope with being injected like that (she didn't NOT want to immunise, but had qualms).

I'm not a genious, that that says something to me. If some children "handle" it better after 2, why? If they are completely safe, why? why? why?

We don't vax....when DD (and Lord willing, any other daughters we have) will be vaxed against the few things that could be potentially fatal to an unborn baby if contracted during pg when she/they are in their later teens. This way, their bodies will be strong enough, hopefully, to withstand the chemicals, and if any reaction happens, it will not be blamed on other events that they usually blame.
I have severe ADD/ADHD in my family, many people have it, and my Mom also has an autoimmune disease. With two potentially vacine activated diseases so very prevalent in our family, and a personal view of lack of need, we have decided against it. Of course we brought this before the Lord many times, and did a lot of reasearch about both sides of the debate. Believe it or not, I was 100% pro-vax before I got pg......

Although we have no plans to do so, if we go to another country, primarily a 3rd world country, we will get our children vaxed. But for now, we educate ourselves on signs and symptoms of all the vaxed against diseases.

Amber

Cristina I would love to see the thread you were talking about. I too am a non-vaxing mother. I never thought that I would be but I am. I could very well get on my soap box and talk about this forever....but I won't.
I normally just don't tell anyone anymore that I don't vax. Even eatting organic foods most people don't understand. So I stay clear of that too. God has just given me a peace about both. I'm not against vax'ing I just think that they should make more greener vax's. If they did, I might just do it.
My husband is an engineer and is very, very, very good with research and development. Being his brilant Einstine self even he has major issues with the structure of vax's. We have had many intelligent discussions with my dh's collage advisor/old collage professor...now friend who sees the dangers and detriment of vaccinations.
It really is not for everyone. I really think this is where all of us christian mom's need to seek the Holy Spirit and be led by Him. If you feel God call you to do it then follow the leading of the Holy Spirit. If you feel the Lord guiding you not to do it then have Faith and Follow Him in it.